And so, we have all raised a hue and cry about the Mangalore Incident...
People and bloggers all over India have protested.. there has been quite a few very interesting and brilliant posts regarding the same.
But, the bottom line is the same - just like the Mumbai Terror attacks, this too will die down and the perpetrators will get away yet again...
There is the Interview with the "Sri Ram Sena chief" - Prasad Attavar in Rediff..
Where, he says that "This is a small incident which has been blown out of proportion"...
Really?!
He also says in the same breath that they are protecting Indian Culture and they will NOT allow Girls to wear skimpy clothes and drink booze and if they wish to do so, then the parents must register the girls' names with the police!
Why are men so insecure when it comes to Successful and powerful women?
This dirty mind set that, women must be controlled...
Are we the animals here or these men who are behaving in such a manner, animals?
It is these men who should be "controlled" and "tamed" to respect their fellow human beings...
In Times of India, there is another article in which they say their agenda is to "prevent Fashion shows"!!!
The most frequently asked question is,
Why have the people of Mangalore kept quiet? Why aren't the civilians not objecting to such behavior?
We don't see any Dharna or protest or violence happening against these perpetrators of crime!!! Why is that?
The answer to this is very simple isn't it - people are very scared...
You know, my colleague was stating that these men too should be chased by a mob and their clothes pulled down... then,only they will know what kind of trauma they have put these innocent girls thru... he was very agitated...But, our agitation isn't helping is it?
Deve Gowda has blamed the CM in this article -
He is right in many ways, but can we just focus on bringing about some justice without the whole thing turning political?
And, even if it does turn into a mud-slinging, verbal shout match between 2 political parties, can we still go ahead and hope that such things will be prevented?
My sister has written that our country is a beautiful and young country, filled with diversities...
I hope that it isn't too much to ask for when we say - let there Be NO diversity when it comes to condemning acts like this.
Let there Be No difference of opinion when we say that, in the name of "Indian Culture" we are letting hooliganism rule...
There are also a couple of posts where some of the bloggers have expressed relief that they don't live in India anymore... It's so totally understandable isn't it?
It's not that they are "bad" Indians with "no patriotism"... it's just that at the end of the day - they would prefer to be safe and at peace in their homes, where they don't have to worry about their children getting beaten up or molested because of the clothes they wear or the drink they drink or the company they keep...
Isn't that what we are all striving at? Peace of mind, safety and assurance as we go about our business just like the millions of people all across the globe...
Am I asking for too much?
On a different note,
GoofyMumma asked me if she could link me up in view of the "Say no to Criminals" campaign while she writes to a couple of newspapers,
" I am planning to mail a couple of newpapers about our 'Say No To Criminals in Politics' campaign. Please let me know if I you mind my linking you up too."
I though long and hard and surprisingly, I requested her not to link me up!
Cowardly, up to a point? Yes... But, I'm scared... blogging anon is giving me a certain amount of freedom... and I use this freedom to rant and rave and I'm happy with the attention, however little it maybe, that I get.
I am afraid of the newspapers... I still feel it might give me negative publicity and unwanted attention...
It might not be that bad... but, we live in times where money and political power rules and there is not much of a chance for us ordinary folks to actually be heard in a just manner without getting negative publicity.
I apologise GM and I hope that with time, I will have enough courage to say yes to you or anyone else to use my post for a newspaper write-up.And yes, Thank you for thinking that my post is worthy enough to be linked up! :-)
People and bloggers all over India have protested.. there has been quite a few very interesting and brilliant posts regarding the same.
But, the bottom line is the same - just like the Mumbai Terror attacks, this too will die down and the perpetrators will get away yet again...
There is the Interview with the "Sri Ram Sena chief" - Prasad Attavar in Rediff..
Where, he says that "This is a small incident which has been blown out of proportion"...
Really?!
He also says in the same breath that they are protecting Indian Culture and they will NOT allow Girls to wear skimpy clothes and drink booze and if they wish to do so, then the parents must register the girls' names with the police!
Why are men so insecure when it comes to Successful and powerful women?
This dirty mind set that, women must be controlled...
Are we the animals here or these men who are behaving in such a manner, animals?
It is these men who should be "controlled" and "tamed" to respect their fellow human beings...
In Times of India, there is another article in which they say their agenda is to "prevent Fashion shows"!!!
The most frequently asked question is,
Why have the people of Mangalore kept quiet? Why aren't the civilians not objecting to such behavior?
We don't see any Dharna or protest or violence happening against these perpetrators of crime!!! Why is that?
The answer to this is very simple isn't it - people are very scared...
You know, my colleague was stating that these men too should be chased by a mob and their clothes pulled down... then,only they will know what kind of trauma they have put these innocent girls thru... he was very agitated...But, our agitation isn't helping is it?
Deve Gowda has blamed the CM in this article -
He is right in many ways, but can we just focus on bringing about some justice without the whole thing turning political?
And, even if it does turn into a mud-slinging, verbal shout match between 2 political parties, can we still go ahead and hope that such things will be prevented?
My sister has written that our country is a beautiful and young country, filled with diversities...
I hope that it isn't too much to ask for when we say - let there Be NO diversity when it comes to condemning acts like this.
Let there Be No difference of opinion when we say that, in the name of "Indian Culture" we are letting hooliganism rule...
There are also a couple of posts where some of the bloggers have expressed relief that they don't live in India anymore... It's so totally understandable isn't it?
It's not that they are "bad" Indians with "no patriotism"... it's just that at the end of the day - they would prefer to be safe and at peace in their homes, where they don't have to worry about their children getting beaten up or molested because of the clothes they wear or the drink they drink or the company they keep...
Isn't that what we are all striving at? Peace of mind, safety and assurance as we go about our business just like the millions of people all across the globe...
Am I asking for too much?
On a different note,
GoofyMumma asked me if she could link me up in view of the "Say no to Criminals" campaign while she writes to a couple of newspapers,
" I am planning to mail a couple of newpapers about our 'Say No To Criminals in Politics' campaign. Please let me know if I you mind my linking you up too."
I though long and hard and surprisingly, I requested her not to link me up!
Cowardly, up to a point? Yes... But, I'm scared... blogging anon is giving me a certain amount of freedom... and I use this freedom to rant and rave and I'm happy with the attention, however little it maybe, that I get.
I am afraid of the newspapers... I still feel it might give me negative publicity and unwanted attention...
It might not be that bad... but, we live in times where money and political power rules and there is not much of a chance for us ordinary folks to actually be heard in a just manner without getting negative publicity.
I apologise GM and I hope that with time, I will have enough courage to say yes to you or anyone else to use my post for a newspaper write-up.And yes, Thank you for thinking that my post is worthy enough to be linked up! :-)
21 comments:
we are all entitled to lead our lives the way we want , peacefully.. its sad ppl are actually feeling relieved that they no longer live here..
mandira
i agree with you.
diversity is fine. but we need to live and let live.
I can understand why you have turned down GM's request.
Isn't it sad that, we have to think twice before we can say / write anything ... even on our blogs and fear our lives ...
Pixie, I can understand where you are coming from. Sad state of affairs!
Registering girls names with police?! WTH!
I can't believe all this is happening in this era and there are many supporters too for this kind of fanaticism.
WTH really. This just makes me desolate.
just when you think things are improving in this country, something like this happens and we go back to square one. right back to where we started. sad but true.
0just like the Mumbai Terror attacks, this too will die down and the perpetrators will get away yet again...
Yup,they are out on bail..
"Why have the people of Mangalore kept quiet? Why aren't the civilians not objecting to such behavior?
We don't see any Dharna or protest or violence happening against these perpetrators of crime!!! Why is that?
The answer to this is very simple isn't it - people are very scared..."
But sadly,their silence is interpreted as acceptance ,atleast these goons claim so...life is miserable everywhere..
You are definitely on a roll!! And I love your pluck. Remember, its women like you who will make men stand up and notice you for who you are and not the stereotyped always suffering women.
I don't know about others, but I for one strongly believe that issues like these need to be addressed strongly. Goonda politics stems out of cowardice on the part of the junta. Who would dare carry out such atrocities if they knew that the public outcry is going to be real bad?
It's so awful that wearing a halter top is considered a crime whereas, molesting and murder are not. And the goddamn chief minister of Karnataka is defending these people. If wearing a certain kind of clothes is offensive to religion then so is violence. I don't see any religion in the world preaching murder or disrespect to women.
These are just attention and money seeking as*#%^es...
Yes they seem to have no idea that we live in a free country and that women have equal rights.
I am glad we are all blogging about it. The latest news is Renuka Chowdhury has sent a new team , she has also initiated an inquiry against the moron called Leader of the female wing of Lady SriRam Sene, Nirmala Venkatesh.
If anybody can make a difference it will be Ms Chowdhary .. let's hope she does.
Let's hope that something good comes out of this and we find the courage to speak up against the discrimination and the acts of violence...
I hope REnuka Chaudry does something about the whole issue...
But, I still fear that this too will die down in a few more days as and when the News people find something new to rant about...
Howe much was done about the girls who were attacked on New Year's Eve last year?
the blame is still on them for wearing "scanty" clothes ...
all you people think you are so great no?
all over emotional women only all of you.
in India, we respect women and when they go out of hand or behave in western manner then they have to be taken to task and taught lesson to come back to their Indian selves.
men earn and women keep house. why do you women want to change this?
Too much influence of western culture.
i pity the man you have marreid. he is a pallu grabbing man i think.
when women like you behave obscenly, we men will use force to control you.
Good that the girls were taught a lesson. it is good they are keeping quiet also. else they will be taken to task again.
u r tagged!
Pix, you should moderate ur comment space so that losers like this one can't violate it!
@Mandira: Tagged? Where? Couldn't find anything on your blog...
*puzzled*
@Sachin: Yea... I need to moderate comments... else, losers like the anon commentor will comment...
@Anon: You seem to be an insecure idiot.
true.
and a very interesting blog.. mark me as a regular !
:-)
@Emaan: Welcome! :-)
And yes, please keep visiting :)
I can understand why you want to preserve your anonymity. I don't think that puts you back in any way because I know you have a good reason why you don't want to "come out". Cowardice is definitely not among those reasons. With people like SRS running amok, more and more women would prefer to remain anonymous too. We are slowly moving towards the dark ages again.
And no, plz don't moderate comments! First of all, its gives freedom to us, your regulars :) and Secondly, let the world see what big losers these people are! :)
Pale Fires Don't Scorch
Deviants of Mangalore and Malegaon are demonised fallaciously
FRANCOIS GAUTIER
Outlook India
February 09, 2009
When I began reporting, I went to interview the RSS leadership in Delhi, expecting, from what I had heard, a few bloodthirsty fascists. I was surprised to meet those old daddies with their long khaki shorts, who would not hurt a fly. Twenty-five years later, the word 'Hindu Talibanisation' is being heard amidst the clamour following the odious pub episode in Mangalore. Such incidents should be condemned, as it has no precedent in Indian history—from Prithviraj Chauhan to Shivaji, Hindus respected the women of even their enemies. Yet, I beg to disagree: this is not about the Talibanisation of Hindu groups, it is about their demonisation.
British colonisers in league with the Christian missionaries realised 200 years ago that the biggest obstacle to fully subjugating India was Hinduism, as it was ancient, woven into the fabric of life and held the country together. They set upon defaming Hinduism, by dwelling on what they perceived as its negatives: castes, sati, superstition, etc. Simultaneously, they created in a span of two or three generations a class of Indians who looked up only to the West.
Macaulay, the architect of the scheme, summed it up in his Minute on Education: "We must do our best to form a class of persons, Indians in blood and colour, but English in taste, in opinions, in morals and in intellect." Macaulay despised Indian culture: "Hindus have a literature of small intrinsic value, hardly reconcilable with morality, full of monstrous superstitions...." The demonisation of Hinduism was apace.
As a result, these Anglicised Indians became ashamed of their own culture. This Western/anti-Hindu outlook was handed down from generation to generation, right down to our age, where many of India's brilliant and articulate Hindu-Marxist intellectuals, products all of institutions like jnu, or St Stephen's, keep on repeating, as if by rote, what their hoary forebears were taught by the British. And unfortunately, they pass it back to their friends from the West, neatly marking a full circle. How else could a film like Slumdog Millionaire, made by an Englishman, which literally craps on India from the very first frame, be feted by most of India's intelligentsia? How else could India specialists like Christophe Jaffrelot peddle to his gullible French readers the spurious theory that there is a "Hindu tradition of terror"?
Politically, the Congress just took over from the British, as I explain in my new book (A New History of India, 2008, Har Anand), and used its English-speaking press to present Hindu social and political parties as fanatical and ridiculous. The goal was to corner the Muslim vote, which was—and still remains—achieved. It does not help today that the supreme leader of India is a Christian. Whether her aides or her ministers (many of them capable people in their own right) rush to gratify her in true bhakti spirit or whether she directly speaks her will, one does not know. But what better way to please her than by equating Hindu fundamentalism with the Muslim one and to turn the flak on to small Hindu outfits which are amateur lambs compared to the Islamic ones?
There are two standards today used by India's media and intelligentsia. One for minorities and the other for Hindus. It is totally illogical: if 4,00,000 Hindus are hounded out of the Kashmir Valley which has always been their home, nobody protests; but New Delhi has been rooting for Palestinians for four decades and recently donated a million dollars for their welfare. When blast after blast wrecks Indian markets, when trains are bombed, hotels attacked by men worse than animals, intellectuals blame it on Babri Masjid (where nobody was killed) or Gujarat (triggered by the burning of 59 innocent Hindus).But when a few Hindus plan to establish a Hindu rashtra and plot a clumsy, small-scale revenge, they are equated with deadly fundamentalists. A universal theorem is made of their single act, which should stand out as isolated, because Hindus have been for thousands of years tolerant to the point of cowardice. Our intellectuals never theorised when, in Kashmir, militants used to throw acid on women who did not cover up, but now devote reams to the goons of Mangalore.
Finally, to be fair, one has to say that a lot of prudishness has seeped into India because of the Islamic purdah and, later, Victorian stuffiness. Yet, Hinduism always enjoined its adherents to live life fully, including its sexual aspect. We do not want an Indian youth which blindly apes the West: drinking, drugs and promiscuity. But the Hindu political leadership should also shun rough, prudish and moralistic acts which will only alienate its young voters.
(Francois Gautier is the editor-in-chief of the Paris-based La Revue l'Inde)
@Amy: Welcome and thank you for the article.. yes, the whole advent of the so-called "Hindutva" movement might have been started with the right intent...
Here, all of us are not against any religion... the target has always been women. That's the biggest grouse.
We women are not the upholders of "Hindutva"... when women are condemned for the usage of drugs, alcohol etc... why aren't men condemned too?
how right is it for a man to indulge in drugs etc?
and these people shouldn't be enforcing moral values on people when their actions itself is of criminal nature...
The underlying importance given here is the suppression of Women rights... the assault and battery of women is something which should be condemned and punishable by law... a law which hasn't been enforced on these perpetrators of such a sordid crime...
yesterday again there was an incident of beating a girl, just because she was talking to a muslim boy..I feel really scared, what is happening to our country, are we going back?
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